Comments on: Tough times http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/ Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:55:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: cryo http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-2/#comment-232177 cryo Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:14:00 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-232177 seriously, you guys have had it easy for too long. your giving a man grief because he notifies you about pending employee cut-backs and all you can do is think to critisize his punctuation. on my way up i have worked jobs where there was absolutely no notification, go home one night secure in your position knowing that the company will pull through. then you show up for work to locked doors cause the company just decided to close one day. hey their right but you sons-of-b's say omg your laying me off at least have the courtousy to use good puctuation. ya'll need to join something that i'd like to call the real world. seriously, you guys have had it easy for too long. your giving a man grief because he notifies you about pending employee cut-backs and all you can do is think to critisize his punctuation. on my way up i have worked jobs where there was absolutely no notification, go home one night secure in your position knowing that the company will pull through. then you show up for work to locked doors cause the company just decided to close one day. hey their right but you sons-of-b’s say omg your laying me off at least have the courtousy to use good puctuation. ya’ll need to join something that i’d like to call the real world.

]]> By: reader http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-2/#comment-186250 reader Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:42:25 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-186250 yahoo should put more soul into the company they are....ask all the ex yahoo's and you will have a list of what yahoo could have been if they had respected the people who worked for them.Giving money always doesnt means respecting them. yahoo should put more soul into the company they are….ask all the ex yahoo’s and you will have a list of what yahoo could have been if they had respected the people who worked for them.Giving money always doesnt means respecting them.

]]> By: chetan http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-2/#comment-181265 chetan Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:36:47 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-181265 People always hate to talk about when they are laid off. But as it has become every day's news headline since Yahoo started it with cutting 1500 of its task force last year, now a need of platform has been in demand where people can express their selves in words how they are feeling about their company, whey the got laid off was that justified or not. And every thing they want to tell anonymously. And www.layoffgossip.com is providing you that platform. People always hate to talk about when they are laid off. But as it has become every day’s news headline since Yahoo started it with cutting 1500 of its task force last year, now a need of platform has been in demand where people can express their selves in words how they are feeling about their company, whey the got laid off was that justified or not. And every thing they want to tell anonymously.

And http://www.layoffgossip.com is providing you that platform.

]]> By: Holt http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-2/#comment-179854 Holt Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:44:39 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-179854 the internet doesn't need capital letters to operate, folks. engineers typically type millions of lines of code. and when you type all day long. doing it in lowercase indeed enables one to type faster. try it yourself. you might like it. the internet doesn’t need capital letters to operate, folks. engineers typically type millions of lines of code. and when you type all day long. doing it in lowercase indeed enables one to type faster. try it yourself. you might like it.

]]> By: john http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-2/#comment-179535 john Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:21:05 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-179535 jerry, kudos to you for your honesty and feeling for your people. I know you are different from outher ruthless CEOs. I wish you would have more shares @yahoo jerry,
kudos to you for your honesty and feeling for your people. I know you are different from outher ruthless CEOs. I wish you would have more shares @yahoo

]]> By: Steve http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-2/#comment-179338 Steve Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:56:53 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-179338 Attn all past Yahoo associates. I am a financial advisor in the San Fernando Valley that helps individuals with 401K rollovers. I know many employees have been laid off and should strongly consider moving their retirement accounts. So if you do not have someone you work with, please give me a call @ 818-774-1003. We can also help you with Health Insurance, which may be less expensive than COBRA. Steve Attn all past Yahoo associates.
I am a financial advisor in the San Fernando Valley that helps individuals with 401K rollovers. I know many employees have been laid off and should strongly consider moving their retirement accounts. So if you do not have someone you work with, please give me a call @ 818-774-1003. We can also help you with Health Insurance, which may be less expensive than COBRA.

Steve

]]> By: Ron Bailey http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178996 Ron Bailey Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:47:03 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178996 Vaya con Dios ^_^ Vaya con Dios ^_^

]]> By: Dorothy Stahlnecker http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178650 Dorothy Stahlnecker Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:54:09 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178650 Jerry sometimes it's hard to comprehend the rudeness of people who from the outside seem to think they can be judge and jury.. Blessings and better times for all of us..it takes a strong and committed man to give his personal thoughts during difficult times.. Dorothy from grammology grammology.com Jerry sometimes it’s hard to comprehend the rudeness of people who from the outside seem to think they can be judge and jury..

Blessings and better times for all of us..it takes a strong and committed man to give his personal thoughts during difficult times..

Dorothy from grammology
grammology.com

]]> By: Wicked http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178622 Wicked Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:13:35 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178622 Best wishes to Yahoo! during this tough time. Best wishes to Yahoo! during this tough time.

]]> By: Voigtman http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178572 Voigtman Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:48:44 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178572 Jerry's tone was very respectful towards employees who were laid off. The vast majority of CEOs do not tell departing employees that they will be missed and that their contributions were appreciated. I truly believe Jerry would have done anything to avoid this action. As for selling the company: that's his job. His first priority is to look out for shareholder interests. Sorry if you do not like it, but that's what the CEO of a publicly traded company has to do. Jerry should not have become the CEO since he lacks good management skills and was outplayed by Google, but he has one trait missing in today's corporate leaders: a good heart. Jerry’s tone was very respectful towards employees who were laid off. The vast majority of CEOs do not tell departing employees that they will be missed and that their contributions were appreciated. I truly believe Jerry would have done anything to avoid this action. As for selling the company: that’s his job. His first priority is to look out for shareholder interests. Sorry if you do not like it, but that’s what the CEO of a publicly traded company has to do. Jerry should not have become the CEO since he lacks good management skills and was outplayed by Google, but he has one trait missing in today’s corporate leaders: a good heart.

]]> By: Ram http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178481 Ram Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:37:38 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178481 Give him a break folks. He's going through a tough time too and nobody likes to sack their own employees. Give him a break folks. He’s going through a tough time too and nobody likes to sack their own employees.

]]> By: Akmed http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178465 Akmed Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:46:01 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178465 There are always people who look past the real story and look for conspiracies when there are none. In this case it’s the "lower case conspiracy". I'm sure that there will be several more da Vinci code dirge posts about the hidden meaning of the message. Probably suggesting that the use of lower case has a secret symbolic meaning linked to the NWO, or that by drawing a pentagram onto the message you can get the points to spell special incantations to summon Cthulhu. The same kinds of people believe that NASA faked Apollo or that the Holy Grail is in a crate, stacked on top of a disassembled UFO in a big CIA warehouse near Area 51. I.e. They are idiots. There are always people who look past the real story and look for conspiracies when there are none. In this case it’s the “lower case conspiracy”. I’m sure that there will be several more da Vinci code dirge posts about the hidden meaning of the message. Probably suggesting that the use of lower case has a secret symbolic meaning linked to the NWO, or that by drawing a pentagram onto the message you can get the points to spell special incantations to summon Cthulhu. The same kinds of people believe that NASA faked Apollo or that the Holy Grail is in a crate, stacked on top of a disassembled UFO in a big CIA warehouse near Area 51.

I.e. They are idiots.

]]> By: Maddy http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178461 Maddy Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:32:44 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178461 Give him a break. It's M$ to blame for both capitalization error and lay-off. The drivers screwed him up in both cases. Give him a break. It’s M$ to blame for both capitalization error and lay-off. The drivers screwed him up in both cases.

]]> By: Chris Baker http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178432 Chris Baker Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:02:56 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178432 @ GET LOST JERRY! - Laziness and greed? The man co-founded the company and it's his life's work. You wouldn't even have a Jerry Yang target to yell at if he hadn't stepped back in with the total belief that he could save the company he started. Laziness is doing what Tyson said - armchair quarterbacking and never actually doing of the "advice" and "scoldings" you spit out so easily and anonymously over the internet. As for the grammar police, if he had capitalized his letter, I suppose none of you would have anything to comment on in this blog post then? If Jerry Yang decided to change his writing style to suit your demands, you would all be fine? Nitpicking much? Thoughts are with all Yahoo employees. Hopefully none of the folks offering up "obvious" advice on this post end up as your next CEO. @ GET LOST JERRY! – Laziness and greed? The man co-founded the company and it’s his life’s work. You wouldn’t even have a Jerry Yang target to yell at if he hadn’t stepped back in with the total belief that he could save the company he started. Laziness is doing what Tyson said – armchair quarterbacking and never actually doing of the “advice” and “scoldings” you spit out so easily and anonymously over the internet.

As for the grammar police, if he had capitalized his letter, I suppose none of you would have anything to comment on in this blog post then? If Jerry Yang decided to change his writing style to suit your demands, you would all be fine? Nitpicking much?

Thoughts are with all Yahoo employees. Hopefully none of the folks offering up “obvious” advice on this post end up as your next CEO.

]]> By: Tarn http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178406 Tarn Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:54:48 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178406 He probably uses notepad to type which doesnt format text. I dont know why people over analyse. Jerry's just a simple man and he's put across his thoughts. I am sure he's going through a lot of pain sacking his people. He probably uses notepad to type which doesnt format text. I dont know why people over analyse. Jerry’s just a simple man and he’s put across his thoughts. I am sure he’s going through a lot of pain sacking his people.

]]> By: Ram http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178405 Ram Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:53:37 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178405 Jerry comes across as a very simple and straightforward man. Why complicate his life with Grammar. Jerry comes across as a very simple and straightforward man. Why complicate his life with Grammar.

]]> By: James http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178395 James Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:08:01 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178395 This explains it all: http://www.amazon.com/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/1587990717 This explains it all:

http://www.amazon.com/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/1587990717

]]> By: mk http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178387 mk Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:03:07 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178387 Most people don't like to be fired, and most people don't get a kick out of being fired. I hope M. Yang and others in Yahoo! inc. remember the people who were fired, and when the good times come again, and they always do, sooner or later, invite them back in a post at the level they had when fired or they have when they can be hired again, whichever is the highest. That would be a very unique corporate society. Most companies don't do that today. Most people don’t like to be fired, and most people don’t get a kick out of being fired.

I hope M. Yang and others in Yahoo! inc. remember the people who were fired, and when the good times come again, and they always do, sooner or later, invite them back in a post at the level they had when fired or they have when they can be hired again, whichever is the highest.

That would be a very unique corporate society. Most companies don’t do that today.

]]> By: Martin http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178374 Martin Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:58:13 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178374 Using the shift key requires that little extra effort, which is why you leave it out in informal communication - it isn't a stylistic choice. Just more effective... hence, not nice here - and if you disagree, then would you consider sms style layoff messages ok, too... x'up yahoos, 2day we layin ya'll off just txt'in 2 let u know. L8 Jerry Using the shift key requires that little extra effort, which is why you leave it out in informal communication – it isn’t a stylistic choice. Just more effective… hence, not nice here – and if you disagree, then would you consider sms style layoff messages ok, too…

x’up yahoos, 2day we layin ya’ll off just txt’in 2 let u know. L8 Jerry

]]> By: GET LOST JERRY! http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178369 GET LOST JERRY! Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:44:51 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178369 Hey Jerry, I personally think it would have been appropriate to at least punctuate your letter properly. At the minimum, at least start your paragraphs with a capital letter; talk about being intellectually lazy. The laziness and greed you have is what has put the company into the position it is today. You know you should have sold to Microsoft earlier this year, especially with the problems Yahoo was encountering. With the mess you made of Yahoo, it'll probably only be another 5 years or so before the stock gets back to the level Microsoft wanted to take over the company. Oh well Jerry, some people never learn. Good riddance. Hey Jerry,

I personally think it would have been appropriate to at least punctuate your letter properly. At the minimum, at least start your paragraphs with a capital letter; talk about being intellectually lazy.

The laziness and greed you have is what has put the company into the position it is today. You know you should have sold to Microsoft earlier this year, especially with the problems Yahoo was encountering. With the mess you made of Yahoo, it’ll probably only be another 5 years or so before the stock gets back to the level Microsoft wanted to take over the company.

Oh well Jerry, some people never learn.

Good riddance.

]]> By: iddaa http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178347 iddaa Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:34:41 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178347 The lack of capitalization, I believe, is not just an accident or mere sloppiness. This post was obviously vetted very carefully by management, and the use of lowercase letters is a pathetic attempt to seem more like “one of the people” while you’re in the process of laying them off. A total embarrassment. The lack of capitalization, I believe, is not just an accident or mere sloppiness. This post was obviously vetted very carefully by management, and the use of lowercase letters is a pathetic attempt to seem more like “one of the people” while you’re in the process of laying them off. A total embarrassment.

]]> By: rafael j. http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178329 rafael j. Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:43:46 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178329 As an ex-Yahoo, I am very sad for the way things have turned out for the company in the past years. Ultimately, of course, its leaders are to blame. However, Jerry and David founded a great company from scratch and they should be very proud of their accomplishments. Today, more than 13,000 people have jobs because of them. Today, 500M users around the world have somewhere to go online because of them. Too bad the game changed and Yahoo! reacted very slowly. Too bad Yahoo! lost its soul in the process. Too bad shareholder value was destroyed. Still, even today, Yahoo! remains the number 1 destination on the web and is profitable. That should account for something. I think, as the board said they do, that Yahoo! is quite undervalued. Regarding Jerry's notes in all-lowercase: every Yahoo knows that Jerry always writes like that. Having sent an e-mail in a different style would only tell people that he didn't write it. Remember, this mail was sent to Yahoos, not to any other audience. As an ex-Yahoo, I am very sad for the way things have turned out for the company in the past years. Ultimately, of course, its leaders are to blame. However, Jerry and David founded a great company from scratch and they should be very proud of their accomplishments. Today, more than 13,000 people have jobs because of them. Today, 500M users around the world have somewhere to go online because of them.

Too bad the game changed and Yahoo! reacted very slowly. Too bad Yahoo! lost its soul in the process. Too bad shareholder value was destroyed.

Still, even today, Yahoo! remains the number 1 destination on the web and is profitable. That should account for something. I think, as the board said they do, that Yahoo! is quite undervalued.

Regarding Jerry’s notes in all-lowercase: every Yahoo knows that Jerry always writes like that. Having sent an e-mail in a different style would only tell people that he didn’t write it. Remember, this mail was sent to Yahoos, not to any other audience.

]]> By: veryverygut http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178295 veryverygut Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:35:36 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178295 for those who insist of shift keys, which part of the world are u from? modern typography has given up upper case since 1920s. this is a purely personal choice. shouldn't judge one's content based on its form. for those who insist of shift keys, which part of the world are u from? modern typography has given up upper case since 1920s.

this is a purely personal choice. shouldn’t judge one’s content based on its form.

]]> By: Dorron http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178293 Dorron Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:28:28 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178293 The nature of business today requires financial and personnel cutbacks. They may be unavoidable, but companies taking these steps are also losing future resources. Personnel cut, suddenly without income and/or activities for which they are needed, are left in shock and depression. This is not a “humane” way of treating a valued fellow co-worker. A more efficient way is to reduce job loads and corresponding pay incrementally. Allowing targeted employees to volunteer or donate time for projects in work while using company facilities to look for their next positions, keep their talents on-board and may help the company turn-around. With luck and good planning the company’s future will look bright and rosy, and those who stuck with it will provide the company with an unparalleled future resource. The nature of business today requires financial and personnel cutbacks. They may be unavoidable, but companies taking these steps are also losing future resources. Personnel cut, suddenly without income and/or activities for which they are needed, are left in shock and depression. This is not a “humane” way of treating a valued fellow co-worker. A more efficient way is to reduce job loads and corresponding pay incrementally. Allowing targeted employees to volunteer or donate time for projects in work while using company facilities to look for their next positions, keep their talents on-board and may help the company turn-around. With luck and good planning the company’s future will look bright and rosy, and those who stuck with it will provide the company with an unparalleled future resource.

]]> By: John http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178288 John Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:12:41 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178288 I dont think it is beyond the scope of the email about how it was formatted etc, etc, but the content of the message and how it conveyed to the readers. I dont think it is beyond the scope of the email about how it was formatted etc, etc,

but the content of the message and how it conveyed to the readers.

]]> By: Rick http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178275 Rick Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:36:06 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178275 Am I the only one that thinks the timing stinks? I mean seriously, couldn't the exec's over at Yahoo come up with an idea to postphone the layoff's till after the holidays. It's bad enough your putting stress on all the employees your releasing, but to time it so that they get the stress and worries right before Christmas, ruining what is supposed to be a cheerful time, seems like an added slap in the face. GG Yahoo Am I the only one that thinks the timing stinks?

I mean seriously, couldn’t the exec’s over at Yahoo come up with an idea to postphone the layoff’s till after the holidays. It’s bad enough your putting stress on all the employees your releasing, but to time it so that they get the stress and worries right before Christmas, ruining what is supposed to be a cheerful time, seems like an added slap in the face. GG Yahoo

]]> By: Akmed http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178272 Akmed Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:17:55 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178272 "why didn't he use the shift key" - what a bunch of moaning idiots. I'm surprised someone didn't complain about the squares: "How disrespectful for Jerry to mock his employees by putting little square eyes at the end of his paragraphs. The combination of lower case and square eyes clearly points to a severe lack of respect towards those employees with poor eyesight!!!!"....duh..... “why didn’t he use the shift key” – what a bunch of moaning idiots.

I’m surprised someone didn’t complain about the squares: “How disrespectful for Jerry to mock his employees by putting little square eyes at the end of his paragraphs. The combination of lower case and square eyes clearly points to a severe lack of respect towards those employees with poor eyesight!!!!”….duh…..

]]> By: Dick Randy http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178270 Dick Randy Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:16:07 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178270 Just yesterday, looking at the turmoil in my own company, I had sent my resume to Yahoo... Just yesterday, looking at the turmoil in my own company, I had sent my resume to Yahoo…

]]> By: Kindaian http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178253 Kindaian Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:38:03 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178253 The use of lower key at all words can be hushing the words down, in an humble way in this case... Just like writing IN ALL CAPITALS may signify two things... that you are shouting... or that you have the shift key stuck... I will leave the exact interpretations to your own. ;) The use of lower key at all words can be hushing the words down, in an humble way in this case…

Just like writing IN ALL CAPITALS may signify two things… that you are shouting… or that you have the shift key stuck…

I will leave the exact interpretations to your own.

;)

]]> By: charles luzze http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/comment-page-1/#comment-178252 charles luzze Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:37:55 +0000 http://ycorpblog.com/2008/12/10/tough-times/#comment-178252 ha, ha, ha... if you all believe Yang's use of lowercase in his layoff letter is telling then you haven't seen anything yet! These layoffs aren't being done to get Yahoo back on its feet - they're being done as a pre-cursor to selling the company. That's right, Yang and management have already decided the company must be sold and they are now taking actions that will make the 'books' look more appealing to the buyer. In fact, if this goes down in typical fashion, Microsoft has already told YAHOO what it wants the headcount to be at before they consumate any deal. This is done all the time. ha, ha, ha… if you all believe Yang’s use of lowercase in his layoff letter is telling then you haven’t seen anything yet! These layoffs aren’t being done to get Yahoo back on its feet – they’re being done as a pre-cursor to selling the company. That’s right, Yang and management have already decided the company must be sold and they are now taking actions that will make the ‘books’ look more appealing to the buyer. In fact, if this goes down in typical fashion, Microsoft has already told YAHOO what it wants the headcount to be at before they consumate any deal. This is done all the time.

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